tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5117005533318160902.post4815239592331036937..comments2024-03-27T19:53:53.708-06:00Comments on growing changing learning creating: According to design dictatesTom Haskinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12658791778134826289noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5117005533318160902.post-61086341992013003552008-11-27T00:29:00.000-07:002008-11-27T00:29:00.000-07:00Kia ora TomYou are so right about the credibility ...Kia ora Tom<BR/><BR/>You are so right about the credibility imparted to the printed word - how 'the power of the pen' began, I guess. It is strange that even with all the techonolgy we have to verify the existence of documentation, through Faxing, scanning or other image transmission, seeing the original document is still accepted as the ultimate verification.<BR/><BR/>I am Power of Attorney for my Mother who lives in Scotland, while I live in New Zealand. I write letters to the Scottish banks to make transactions on my Mother's behalf. I always send a digital photo of the letter by email - to let the banks know that the letter is on its way. Try as I may, I have never convinced the banks to act on the receipt of my digital copy, yet I communicate with them regularly, sometimes monthly, with the same pattern and practice. That ubiquitous inertia, again.<BR/><BR/>Catchya later<BR/>from Middle-earthBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5117005533318160902.post-66476124114450410312008-11-24T09:42:00.000-07:002008-11-24T09:42:00.000-07:00KenThanks for your follow-up comment. I share your...Ken<BR/>Thanks for your follow-up comment. I share your instinct for making many tenacious explorations of concepts, possibilities and frames of reference. I appreciate the liabilities of our approach that you characterized. I find it's also has a upside that delivers greater breadth and depth to my comprehension. Our teeth are sharp enough to chew on tough questions, puzzles and trends. <BR/><BR/>McLuhan also saw a connection between technology and collective intelligence, as you have observed. The advent of printed words put us under the impression that anything written down is apt to be more reliable than spoken words. We imagine credentials have to be put on paper, and we dismiss verbal proof of qualifications as mere hearsay. As we get accustomed to new ways to transmit oral communication, he would predict that we'll assume that spoken words are apt to be regarded as more reliable than written words. In both cases, the technology overrules any deeper questions about reliability and dictates some limitations to our collective intelligence.Tom Haskinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12658791778134826289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5117005533318160902.post-71018513985585283332008-11-23T03:39:00.000-07:002008-11-23T03:39:00.000-07:00Kia ora TomI'm not so sure about them being insigh...Kia ora Tom<BR/><BR/>I'm not so sure about them being insights. They are just observations and reflections on those. <BR/><BR/>You caught me at an odd moment when I was still wondering about the post I'd written recently where I'd asked <A HREF="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2008/11/are-we-there-yet.html" REL="nofollow">Are We There Yet?</A><BR/><BR/>Technology and collective intelligence, to my way of thinking, seem to be bound together, if only disjointedly.<BR/><BR/>For as useless as the Pyramids are today, they still make a huge statement of what collective intelligence can do. We think it's crazy (or some of us do) and relegate the Pyramids to the less than useful heap - what a heap!<BR/><BR/>There is a theme to my thinking that just happened to be still there when I saw your post. I apologise for that. It's the way my mind works - like a dog that's got a hold of a juicy bone and doesn't want to let it go.<BR/>My teeth hurt.<BR/><BR/>Ka kite<BR/>from Middle-earthBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5117005533318160902.post-78874881465591806632008-11-22T08:45:00.000-07:002008-11-22T08:45:00.000-07:00Thanks for all these insights Ken. You've got me w...Thanks for all these insights Ken. You've got me wondering if our collective intelligence can only oscillate between polarities like change /stability, greed /altruism, individuality /community? <BR/><BR/>I'm hopeful that this new technology of connectivity may disrupt that pattern which has endured throughout our history of oral and written communication. Perhaps our group mind is beginning to embrace paradoxes, both/and propositions and the middle between polarities.If that's true, it's not because we learned from history, but because our awareness now includes so many other viewpoints, value systems, cultures and shared ambitions.Tom Haskinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12658791778134826289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5117005533318160902.post-43042513685576128822008-11-22T02:16:00.000-07:002008-11-22T02:16:00.000-07:00Kia ora TomFor a long time (and it continues) huma...Kia ora Tom<BR/><BR/>For a long time (and it continues) humankind has followed dictates. Oh yes, the form of the dictates has changed over the millennia, but never-the-less the dictates have called the shots.<BR/><BR/>Some last for a few years, some last for decades, some live out centuries before the dictates are overturned by some sort of knee-jerk reaction by (human) society. I think that it's in our dna.<BR/><BR/>You have recognised a feature of the effect of dictates. It's not particularly exciting. It simply dictates the <I>status quo</I>.<BR/><BR/>How often has society waited for that wonderful moment when religion or science or political inertia is about to announce a revelation that brings hope into the arena, only to find that the wait was a waste of time, and energy in hoping?<BR/><BR/>Somehow our dna prohibits humankind from behaving intelligently <I>en masse</I>. The collective intelligence we hear and read about never puts on its thinking cap when it's really needed.<BR/><BR/>Yet it can move swiftly and as deftly as a shoal of fish in following fashion and things seemingly trivial compared to the perceived real need for shifts in society. We've only to look at political choice of a nation.<BR/><BR/>Oh, I'm not talking about the present moves in elections. Politics has shifted under the influence of dictates for centuries like a pendulum.<BR/><BR/>As agile as it moves, the pendulum has its own inertia, never finding the balance, never resting in equilibrium. Never learning from its own mistakes. Yet at its centre is a need to solve a problem of sorts.<BR/><BR/>It is (in fact) like a collective non-intelligence. It's the case in point where the whole is NOT greater than the sum of its parts. Far from it.<BR/><BR/>History gives a fine reflection of how it works. They say we never learn from history. That saying has been around long enough. Yet we still don't. We have never learnt to learn from what we see as a blatant lesson for society.<BR/><BR/>No. Humankind doesn't think like brains do. How silly to think that the collective motion of millions of intelligences is not intelligent - as we perceive it. Not like bees. A bee seems to have a residual intelligence. But the swarm seems to have a mind of its own.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's just the way individuals think. Maybe, in fact, the real intelligent way to move is how humankind moves and has been moving for centuries - despite the intelligent opinion of individuals on how it SHOULD move. So dictates may form a major part of that. Who knows?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the dictates shold be revered more than they are.<BR/><BR/>Ka kite<BR/>from Middle-earthBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.com